May i know is there any effects out there that allows me to extract personal informations from spectator? Like tricks that enable me to know her birth day, favourite movies, favourite books, favourite foods, parents name, pets name, name of someone close that passed away or whatever... i know some basic cold readings but i'm looking to more steady methods, sure fire and less suspicious

thanks...

Your question seem asking how to tackling girls [maybe you can learn something from fortune teller, they may tell you the way]. I did learn some *tricks* from fortune teller. Please don't misuse it. :P

BTW i doing this as a research for some high impact mentalism like what Derren brown did... not for girls, OK?c'mon lar I'm gay


the gay part is joking

the method the fortune tellers using is cold readings if I'm not wrong...That's what Ian rowland said...Or issit possible for cold reading to go to the extend that it's sure fire with a simple statement?

What if I tell you a way without CMR, I know there is a ways [Very simple].
I nearly been cheated by monk. Did you listen from those people pass by when you in restaurant said they know plam reading? Pay more attention on those people when they have customer. [combine their technic with the technic from magic may make good illusion].

mmmm......just for your info i learned bout palm readings and star signs before.. it's totally inaccurate without cold reading techniques...I want a method of extracting info that will enable me to give a staight forward statement that describe the spectator's situation perfectly

no offence to th psychics out there :P

Lai,

If u find a way, teach me ok? :D
I've been trying some stuff, mostly only works with guys or girls age between 25 to 40 years old, born outside of KL. :P


Tenkaikool,

Whats CMR?

IF i find a way i'll tell you for sure... I think we should find a time to discuss on this effect... if we can really work out a method, we will make it MMF exclusive mentalism effect LOL...currently i can only work on zodiac and use some cold readings... ... MORE research arghhh

Cool Reading the M miss type sorry, typing error. Forget about it.

My hand is so itchy to delete this part :D


hahahahaha just kidding man ;)

Just ask her to sign her name on the card..... then the date..... then the phone number... then her social security number... then her boyfriends name..... OOPS!

the effect i'd like to get is able to extract some informations from her without direct quetioning...as for the name of boy friend part...:P i dont think i'll do it since i prefer to perform to single

in some cases of CR, the spectator herself supplies the information without realizing it, and you must make it seem as if you are the one divining all this info. practise your CR, i'm sure you'll get the hang of it.

thx i'll study my Coldreading again
Btw if there is other way of extracting informations other than cold readings feel free to post in this thread...Because the effect i want is to write down the infomation on piece of paper... It's difficult for coldreading to work that way, am I right?

currently I'm trying to develope something like combination of Magic with different art form..like have you guys heard of this art that enabled people to speak with air in stomach? vanqruilism or something like that...But i cant start since i dont even know the spelling of the word :P (off topic again)

ventriloquism. I'd love to see you combine that art with cold reading :)

thx for the spelling, and i can start my research now~~!! :!!:

if u wanna have the spectator write down info on a piece paper then you can always go for a CT or any good peek that u can use.

PM me if u wanna talk mentalism, be glad to help out.

I asked this question about sources to read people by their clothes/dressing/behaviour in the magic cafe.

I got a hundred odd views, 1 reply. Either I asked a question which is too sensitive to talk about or too stupid to be bothered to reply.

according to the one and only reply I got, its briefly covered in Mind Myth And Magick (by TA Waters) and since I don't have that book yet, I can't comment.

I'll try and tget that book... :P