Greeting from Magic Ring

Hi to all fellow magician again. After next month gathering, I planned to organise
a card flourish competition somewhere in March or April, in conjunction of opening of new Magic Ring shop in Times Square. The competition will be held in Times Square itself,most probably outside of the shop with a build up stage.

And before I can do so, I would like to know how many of you out there are interested to take part. The entrance fee wont be much and most probably free for members. May I know who is the person in charge or the committees of MMF?
If anyone out there are interested,do drop me some idea or your comment.
This competition will only be able to take place if I have enough participants,so do let me know ok? Thanks so much.

Magically yours,
Vincent

Im in charge of MMF but ive got people like Jeff Gan, Andrew Loh, Kamil, and Joe Xavier to help me out..

And yes... im excited abt the competition.

I hope more would join :)

Hi Brendan,

Well...thanks for the reply. For your information, the competition can only take place if I have at least 10-15 participants or else there is no point of doin it.
Which is much popular among the magician community here? So to all fellow magician, do let me know which will u prefer to have? A Card Flourish Competition or A Close Up Competition?

It would be nice to have a stage magic competition but I believe there are not many magician who are doing that in Malaysia. So come guys, please let me know if I to organise a competition by March or April, what kind of competiton do you wan to have? Thanks...

As you know there is a AMA (Msia). Actually I wanted to reunited all the independence magic club in Malaysia into one.Which mean AMA (Msia) & MMF are afficiated to one another.My another propose idea is when you are a AMA (Msia) - MMF Members,then I can include the MMF logo in the AMA membership card.
All this are only my proposal and ideas. So I am looking forward in finding the win-win situation for everybody. So I need feedback and comment.
Thanks so much

I'm not sure if I'd go for the flourish competition. I'm more interested in the close up one :) But we'll never know!

I am coming out with this pole in order to do find out what you fellows magicians here are interested in?
The competition will most probably take place in March or April, in conjunction of the new opening of Magic Ring in Times Square (same floor,bigger shop - about 3 times bigger than the current one)
Hope to hear from all of you.

who's the judge?
Whats the rule?
can a junior or beginner join?
make sure you do a certificate to all participants wheter they won or not okay?
huhu!

I am interested in close-up competition though.

Andrew

:!!:

i don't think i can enter the competition... but i'd like to watch :P

HI Iylia,

The competition will be open to all magicians. Term will be announce later and of course there be a joining fees.
If the competition take place,then i will have a very good planning so dont worry ok my friend.
Now I am just waiting for feedback on whether to do close up or card flourishes competition.
Is there anyone into stage magic?

how bout a mentalism cat?

Sorry Baalan, there wont be any competition on mentalism act, that will be categories under stage magic. I dont think there are many stage magician in this country,would be nice if there is a stage magic competition. Unlike in Bangkok, Thailand, there were around 40 participant in stage magic which organised by a local magician.
Hope to hear from all of you from time to time.Thanks

sounds like fun... but i'm still a noob magician... so don't think i'll be entering... and april i got BIG exams... so i doubt i'll be going as well

Hi Sukyi, for a girl. you are kinda active in magic. Good to hear that. And I am glad that even though you are active and like magic very much,you still put your studies in the 1st priority.
Well....just hope that the competition date wont be clashing with your exam date. Whether you are taking part or not,you are always welcome to attend. Just because you are new or a beginner,do not let that excuse to de-motivate you. It is not so much of the winning...it is the courage that matter. Take it as an experience. If everyone keep on saying that,then when are they going to start it? It have to start from somewher, somehow.
In every game,there be winning and losing.If no one want to lose,then the game will never end.
No matter what, studies come first and let magic be your first priority as hobby.

Vincent
(Magic Ring Club - MRC)
Keeping The Spirits of Magic Alive

mmm...what about metal bending or card effects that looks more "mental" than sleight of hands, do they consider as close-up magic?
must all effects be original?
if all the judges are magicians, then we must perform a magicians' fooler but if most judges are laymen, the effects we're going to perform will differ...so who are the judges?
Thanks in advance for answering my quetions... :wub:

hehe... thanks... yeah... you're right... if always say beginner then will never build up the courage to "perform"... but yeah... april is a crutial time for me... so i don't think i'll be able to make it... even to watch :(

Hello Lai, thanks for your feedback. You have a very interesting question here.
Ok,let me clear some confusion.Basically,when I mention close up,it cover a very big area. It can be card, coin, rubber band or as u mention metal bending.
So what we are looking in here are not only skill,but the idea and originity of the act. For take Jeff McBride, he is popular and famous for his style of performing, not so much of his skill as there is nothing special in his show. BUt what special is his showmanship. He perform his card multipulation, I believe there are so many others who can do the same thing or even better but what makes him stand out is his showmanship.
You can be very good in card multipulation but your act are dull, the music you use are also dull but your skill is perfect. SO on the score sheet, you might get full point for your skill but as for presentation & showmanship, u are getting a very low mark.So it doesnt balance the whole thing. But if there's another performer who only perform simple but entertaining and full of new idea,even though he dont get good point in skill,but he will surely get good point in presentation,showmansip and ideas. If to compare between this 2, the 2nd one will win.
So what matter most is not only skill, but yr presentation and showmanship. There is a old saying in show business, when you go on stage, only 30% are skill, 70% is your presentation and showmanship.

So no matter what act u are going to perform, remember, what matter most is the value of entertainment.Not only skill.Hope I manage to answer your question. Keep on pouring in yr question if you still have any. Thanks so much for your feedback again.Cheer...

Vincent
(Magic Ring Club - MRC)
Keeping the Spirits Of Magic Alive

hehe... am i the only one voting for flourish comp? lol

Thanks tleong for answering my quetions...

Basically the competition will take place in either April or May,yet to be confirm. But before this can take place, I really need to know how many of the members here would like to take part? From the pollls, it seem like it is probably a Close Up Magic Competition. So I need to know how many and who are serious in taking part. No point if there is only 5 contestants,right? DO keep me inform as I need time to plan for it. Thanks

Vincent
(Magic Ring Club - MRC)
Keeping the Spirits of Magic Alive

hey vincent. I guess will talk more to you when i go up KL.

Any big names in Malaysian magic going to be there for the gathering Vincent?

Roughly how many people u estimate to turn up....

I like to meet new people too... especially those with the same interest... card magic / flourish

Well to Brendan, talking about big names, I personally invited Sonny Hew to attend and he said he will do so if on that day he can escape from any of his events. Im also trying to get in touch with Robert Chan. I guess not many big names in Malaysia magic. So may I know is there any big names that you known?
You may just suggest to me and we might just invite him over.
Well, roughly I estimated about 100 magicians will turn out, just hopping more will eventually join in.
I believe on that day you be able to meet all kind of magician, since you love card magic so much, then you be very glad to meet up with Uncle Bob Chua from Singapore. I think he is the best when it comes to card tricks! In fact most of my card tricks came from him.
So till we meet on that day, just drop me a line if you need any help or suggestions to share with me. Bye......


Vincent
(Magic Ring Club - MRC)
Keeping the Spirits of Magic Alive

To all MMF members,

As I mentioned earlier,I plan to held a magic competition. Stage magic will be great but I dont seem to find anyone here are doin stage magic. I saw many of you all are doing lots of card flourish but when I had the polls, only 1 voted Card Flourish competition. Then I believe it's only left the option of Close up Competition.
And before this competition can take place, I need to know how many of the members here are keen to take part in the competition. Of course there be a minimum competition fees but in return, the prizes will be very attractive. Or anyone can just give me any of your suggestions?
So pls let me know how many of you all are keen to take part, then only I will start to plan. No point planning and running the competition if there is no one who wanna to take part.
This is not the 1st time I am asking about this, so if I still dont hear any respond regarding this, then I might as well call it off.
Thanks.


Vincent
(Magic Ring Club - MRC)
Keeping the Spirits Of Magic Alive

Ok, looks like I need to put the competition on hold as nobody seem to be interested so far. Therefore I wont be organising any competition for the time being until I get some respond. Thank you


Vincent
(Magic Ring Club - MRC)
Keeping the Spirits of Magic ALive

Hi Lai

In my opinion, mental effects can be also considered as Close Up. Check the teach in dvds of Banachek and Osterlind.

To take part in a magic close up competition, the effects need not be magicians' foolers and of course originality has an advantage. Entertainment value is of utmost importance rather than the technicality part of it.

It would be nice if the panel of judges are comprised of magicians and laymen.

No point flourish comp. Not yet comp, you already win :D

Seriously lah.. you got no competition, except in Singapore.

im sure got other flourishers in msia that is way better than me la. Just maybe they are not in this forum...yet? -_-

Spore flourishers are just crazy! I wish to jam with them man.

Blllrrr :P I haven't been idle you know. It's been about what is allowed to be shown.

Right now kinda busy starting up the studies for this year so very sorry I didn't reply to this thread.

But I can go for either so, up to you guys lorr....... I just wanna have some fun taking part. So far, it has to be on a weekend(not sunday) or a weekday night(not too late) in order to accomodate my schedule.

Since Brendan wants, I might as well vote for flourish too. Come come all flourishers vote lai lai lai!!