Hi guys,

Hi, i just wanna knw what kind of DL did you guys usin? I personally into push-off DL, but i have seen some top pros usin other DL, such as Lee Asher and Brian Tudor, es Brian, he do he DL one handed and look very nice and natural.

So, what kind of DL did u use?

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hello

im using the turn over DL ^^ but im praticing 1 handed too..damm hard :P
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Hey, does anyone knows wat type of DL michael ammar use?
strike DL?

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Hehe, one handed DL, i manage to execute a D, but cant turn it over with one hand,haha, maybe jus need more practise.

So, beside one handed, any1 knw how to do a strike DL? i heard that strike DL is very hard, ^_^ .

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I'm using Darwin Ortiz's pinky count, and I never found a reason why you wanna do DL with 1 hand (I assume you mean turning over the card using the hand that's holding the deck).

Cyclone, Ammar uses strike.

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Haha, i think i jus wanna learn some more sleight, haha, daryl got teach one handed DL in his Ambitous DVD, is quite hard to learn and to make it perfect is a hard job too...

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I use a standard DL, but I catch a break via a pinky pull down, with 2 cards.

- Lapping.

Hi,

So how you guys think about thumb count? between pinky and thumb, which 1 is the best? from you all p.o.v,

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Everyone here knows I'm not a card person, but for a total goof like me, I prefer the thumb count.

I use strike DL. No use spending time mastering flashy, flourishy DL.

LOL.. im not going to tell you guys wat i use.. lol... :P

U'll see oneday lol....

Anyway I use the normal ways... just like you do... TC or PC.

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;) somethin happenin here, haha, Brendan usin rare DL, hope he can show us what he got over here...

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nah man... i dont use rare DL... its all the same... v normal DL... (use break :P)... all good, all safe.

one thing i dont do is go for the touch/feel DL. I suck at that. Some people I know strike DL by feel everytime.... crazy :!!:

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Hehe, guess if i wanna be like RT still got a long way to go, haha, push off take me months of practise, although it din look that natural, but i still practising it everytime i get the cards in my hand,haha.

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i use TC or PC too...

i think with DL, you can use any DL as long as it's natural to the individual...
if the guy's a flourisher and does a fancy looking DL, people are just going to think he's a flourisher and wouldn't really question why he does it like that

Sorry Kenneth...

We cant expose what DL is in the forum.

No exposure here pls.

More technical aspects can only be discusses in the Fellowship forum where only certain members are allowed.

CHeers, Brendan

Hi

Hi Sukyi, yeah, i think you get the point, hehe, before i got to learn the push off DL, i usin standard with TC, hehe B)

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i dunno wat kind of dl i'm using but i learn it via micheal ammar cd :lol: ..

yea i personally think nowadays laymen are somtimes smart enuff to know that we are doing a dl..i personally think a dl if one the most important aspects in magic because a lot of card tricks involve dl...if oni i can master david blaine dl ^_^

Personally, pinky count all the way for me. It's invisible, and it can also be somewhat as a magician fooler - and you'll get more respect than using a thumb count or riffling at the back with your thumb to get a break, especially at conventions.:)

I also tend to get a break via dribbling the cards and stopping (via the feel) when there's just X cards left in my hand. Without breaking the flow of the dribble as much as possible, i let my pinky go onto the deck and I continue to dribble the remaining X cards onto the pinky - thereby getting my break.

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Brendan: Jordan, no need to mention how many cards... etc etc. We know wat you mean. :P

Nice method there Jordan.

PC... man... my pinky has no feelings for cards... LOL...

Beveling (is that how you spell it? hehe) the deck does help a lil.

strongly disagree with ya :)
If you can do it well, nobody will know that you're doing a DL. If you're not doing it well, you shouldn't be using the sleight. ;)

^_^ yea everyone has own opinion...i respect dat..but i jus tell from my personal experience coz when im in secondary school with 0 knowledge bout magic i can c diff of dl and normal..coz normally when u are dl-ing u wont hold the card for long and where u are not u will like show like normal..that is for wat i experience since i started go into magic(now still a newbie)...jus wan tell ya not nobody can c the dl...may b i am the special 1...i think u misunderstand with my thought..wat i mean is dat nowadays laymen are more well knowledge than laymen last time..is not so easy to convince them..hence, of coz u must practice the trick well b4 showing it to others...for me even a simple 4 ace trick i oso practice everyday because my knowledge to magic and tricks is still limited due to the fact then i seriously involve oni for 1-2 months...even brendan trinity video's i downloaded and watch around 50 times still kenot catch the technique..may be because i'm have no basics for flourish dats y i find it so hard and no one around me i know can guide me...lucklily forrest given me some tips on handling cards and we must onli know do the trick but oso know wat the spectator is thinking...yea nx time i will make sure i can do a dl well b4 i start showing tricks...till then more dl practice ^_^

I hate algebra. :(

Jordan

Hi,

So, for me, misdirection is very important, because with this, you can misdirect them from looking directly to your hand, some of them may be trying to be heckler, but, do you all knw, by involving a tricks with them, let them enjoy it, they wont heck you for sure, jus of my personal experience.....

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Thats true
A DL isn't all about technique
it also depends A LOT on psychology and your performance
it should be done in a casual manner as to not gather suspicion
when executing a DL, . ( mod edit: a part has to be censored out as it contains exposure. basically it's saying that you have to believe in what you do as much as you want the spec to)
....
Even if your technique is absolutely perfect, there will always be times where you muck up because you're too nervous while performing.(hand shaking etc)
thats when the performance and misdirection come into play
if you muck it up, don't call attention to it
never stare at your cards when executing a DL
if you so happen to muck it up
move to other sleights that dont require DL i.e T** CH**GE
then after about 2 phases (or you calm down)
start over with the DL
make your audience forget that they saw an exposed DL
also throw in some convincers that you are using a single every once in a while.

Dude, where I'm from (which is earth), top change is less knuckle busting but scarier than DL. It's like if I have to have a guideline on what the prequisite of what move, I'd put DL before TC.

really?
i try to TC anytime i can
see how many times i can get away with it
rather fun actually...=)

Hi,

Haha, seems like there is a lot to talk about a DL, misdirection for me is very very important, and it did help me a lot, example like jay sankey, for us, his sleight is jus ok, compare with the other top magician, but for laymen, he is a great magician, because with the sense of humour inside him, and 90% of ppl will be misdirect if you make them laugh, thats what jay and doc eason said...

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