hey..do you guys have problem in pressure fan?i bought XB dvd and practice the pressure fan and i still cant do it...dont know why..i cant do the double charlier too..i think my finger is not long enough..

Keep at it and it'll come to you
After a while you'll get used to the feeling of applying even pressure when opening the fan. Give it about 2 weeks or so of constant practice and you should be fine.
check back then.

For the double charlier....it could be that your hands are too small but there are always ways around that.
best thing to do is post up a video of your problems.

I agree with Amane (abt posting a vid of ya prob)....

As for double charliers.. heehe i dont do them really...

how do i post a video about my problems?For pressure fan,i keep cannot spread out all of the cards..there are always some of them stick together.I apply alot pressure on my cards and they bend easily =(..Does a nice fan really needs alot of pressure?I used to practise alot on pressure fan and until now i still cant get it.And for double charlier,i think it is impossible for me to do.Even i do it 100 times,i cant even complete one double charlier.I dont think there is a way of doing it.Cause my fingers are not long enough to execute a double charlier.Sigh..

Hey, no worries man! Chill! I can't even do 1 single charlier cut, let alone a double! my fingers are too small and short, heck i can't even do a classic palm! Pressure fan just tears the cards (well, it tore 2 cards) so i don't practice them. Just a normal fan would be okie for me.

Sometimes we can do some sleights, and sometimes we can't. I mean person X can do this and that, but person Y can do others that person X isn't good at. We're human, don't let this put u down from performing other sleights or continuing with other sleights.

its practice~ don't worry about your cards bending...lol
I've wrecked many many decks due to over-springing and le-pauls etc...
in the end its all worth it, wrecking and bending decks is just part of practice.

just take a video of you trying to do a pressure fan and the charlier
we'll help you from there

the great thing about flourishing is, when you finally get a move down, you're the happiest person in the world.

the worst thing about that is, once you get that feeling of being the happiest person in the world, you realize that was only your 3rd flourish learnt!

haha... Don't sweat it, flourishing requires a whole lot of patience and practice. Hang in there! Also, don't worry about small hands! Where there's a will, there's a way!

One last thing, about your pressure fan, what cards are you using and how old are they? Jeff McBride said in one of his videos that pressure fans can be done with any cards, old or new, but I often find it hard to do pressure fans with different kinds of cards.

Jennifer u cute man , actually tear cards during the fan
try do a torn n restore routine after that
ahha
i cant perform double charlier too, the second one my finger cant reach
so just forget about it and learn other stuffs like birdie
try some sybils , it should be easy for short finger ppl like me.haha

I still feels that small hands are still an disadvantage. I dont believe a 7 years old kid can do a king cobra cut with their hands. Anywhere I'm gonna post a video of my problem soon. Hope you guys can guide me =) .

Ok. I just uploaded my pressure fan and charlier videos. Hope you can help me =). Heres the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qghHy11OWOg.
Any idea why i cant upload picture for my profile?

-Hou-

From your video it seems that your finges have problem stretching. Don't worry about it. Just keep at it. I was like that at first too, and now I can do about 8 charliers using a full deck hahaha. Not a double, but eight hahaha. It all comes down to practice. Sometimes I can control so only a sinlge card falls down, so you can see how I stretch it until 8. I just did a few and my maximum is 14, woot! My average is about seven, but it takes a lot of concentration.

Anyway you guys shouldnt be complaining. Famous people such as Max Malini and Jay Sankey are said to have very small hands too! So fear not and worry not.

By the way, your hands look about the same as mine. Wanna measure? Haha.

Added: By the way, you can hold the cards up a bit higher. Also, when you are pushing for the first batch (when doing the double charlier), when it just touches the thumb (which bends), release the second batch (half of the remaining or less to make it easier), and when pushing up the second batch ccompletely let go of the third packet letting it fall onto your index finger and the rest of the deck fall onto it (by pushing them with the thumb).

Don't worry just practise more. It took me loads of practice to get me where I am today hahaha (no doubts here about which is my favourite cut XD)

What do u mean u can do 8 charliers using full deck? Izit double charlier or single charlier? I can do single charlier how many times i want. But in this video, the part where i use 2 hands is because I can't drop half of the cards to do the double charlier.

double charlier: I can see that your hands are a bit small
Pressure fan: Your thumb is getting stuck at the end

I will post up a vid this week to help you out..
my internet is laggy at the moment.

i m having same problem
finger not long enough to support the 2nd packet

i guess wat vincentp meant was he can keep doing a double charlier up to 8 times, means that he can drop 7 packets(the part where u used your right hand to drop the packet) after the first cut.....

Yep you're right Chris. I can drop portions of the deck and then put them back. In the normal charlier you do that once, in the double charlier you do that twice, I can do it, if I concentrate, about 7-8 times, with a high of 14 the only time I bothered to count. Kind of cheating, I know, haha, since it's easier to do it with smaller packets.

Guys don't worry about hand size. After more practice, your fingers will learn to stretch themselves to do it properly. It took me about a week or so of constant practising to be able to pull of the double charlier, and once you can do that the rest is just a matter of thumb control, how many cards you drop per time.

I'll post up the length of my fingers in a day or two. (lol that sounds so wrong). I usually do it with my left hand but my right can do them too (I know I seriously too free nothing better to do, but the name of the cut does sound nice haha).

Alright, thx amane. I will still practice my pressure fan. Ty guys for the advice =)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yKZmdxZ9N0Y

I made this video a while back,
Look here for a demo of pressure fans
watch closely at the end of the fan and the position of the thumb

i'll have to do one for the double charlier....it'll be up soon

Great fanning there Amane...

The vid rocks...

Very nice fanning indeed Amane.

Well my finger measurements of my left hand as promised, although a bit late haha.

thumb: 6.4cm
index finger: 7.4cm
middle fingre: 8.1cm
ring finger: 7.6cm
little finger: 5.8cm

All measurements are made from the base line of the finger to the tip.