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Title: One-ahead
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Adlan - June 27, 2005 09:08 AM (GMT)
Vision came to my place last night and we came up with a routine in which 2 or 3 predictions disappear from the pieces of paper they were written on.

The papers are burned and put out on the arm, where the prediction mysteriously appears from the ashes.

We modified this from a prediction effect (using the one-ahead principle) found in Magic For Dummies (yay!).

anyone with comments or ideas?

Jeff Gan - June 27, 2005 09:37 AM (GMT)

remember reading about this routine in either karl fulves or annemans book.

i'm just not so confident using the one ahead principle. does it still fool people this day and age?

wondering, if we could pour ink in a pan and the prediction symbols just form in ink (something like copperfields) but i've no idea how he did his.
could we achieve something to that effect using oil and ink?




Peter - June 27, 2005 05:49 PM (GMT)
how come u meet up with vision also never call me??? aiyo.. miss one very good meet up liau lor... wassay... what lar u...

show me the routine during our next meeting!!! i want to see and be amazed. actually whatever u do also i will get amazed cause all also i never see b4. hehehe....

Samuel Chong - June 29, 2005 03:07 AM (GMT)
>> does it still fool people this day and age?
The answer is yes. I really use this technique in my pay performance normally I use it in my close-up situation. I loce it because it don't involve any sleight of hands all it depends on your presentation, how you sell the effect.

Adlan - June 29, 2005 03:55 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Kenningst @ Jun 28 2005, 01:49 AM)
how come u meet up with vision also never call me??? aiyo.. miss one very good meet up liau lor... wassay... what lar u...

show me the routine during our next meeting!!! i want to see and be amazed. actually whatever u do also i will get amazed cause all also i never see b4. hehehe....

no la...he came to my place after the klang parade meeting, remember? he wanted to see if his HDD could plug in to my pc. hehehe.

Jeff Gan - June 29, 2005 06:23 AM (GMT)
monte,

thanks. I'll try to use it 1st chance i get. I'm trying to figure out the oil & ink thingie.

Andrew Loh - June 29, 2005 03:12 PM (GMT)
Wow guys! I really respect you guys came up something new or unique by you guys rather than using and performing other magicians' stuffs. ^_^ - Salute!

Well guys, I am really encourage you guys if you guys can put this effect in ebook or book whatever format you want and market them. ^_^

Looking forward you guys in the future release some awesome materials.

Andrew

shan - July 4, 2005 10:30 AM (GMT)
Hi all,

The one-ahead principle is certainly one of the most powerful tools to the mentalist. Doing a bare-bones triple prediction using this principle is suicide. Monte is certainly right, in that the routining needs to be subtle enough to hint to the spectator that you 'already knew' what he was thinking of. For a really nice example of this in action (with all the suitable subtleties and bluffs) take a look at Bob Cassidy's Name/Place routine. The handling of the effect is good enough that the thought of 'one-ahead' (if the spectators even know what that is) will never even enter your head. ^_^

But the prediction appearing in the form of ashes on the arm sounds bloody cool, and could be a really strong and visual ending for such a mentalism trick (instead of... "Ooh boy, the name you are thinking of is... it's a girl, right? Yes, it is... John!!!"), so now it all boils down to the routining (not the handling) to convince their brittle minds that you can really twist reality! :D

Keep on working on it guys! Looks like a potential diamond you guys have here. ;)

Regards,
Shan




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