Hi all magicians from Miri or areas around Miri,

So far, I have found 4 other fellow magicians who are seriously into magic. So I decided to start a magic circle here in Miri. We'll just start by having small get-togethers and sharing out thoughts and ideas.

I also know a few junior magicians but I will not put them into the magic circle first. As we all know, some laypeople start off in magic to find out the secret. Once they get bored of it, they quit and subsequently lost their respect for the art. So what I'm doing is just basically filtering members into the Magic Circle.

Probably once everything is cool, we can have our monthly or even weekly meetings. At the end of the year, I might incorporate and make a website for Miri's Magic Circle.

For those of you from Miri and still looking around for magicians, just PM me and we'll work things out. Thanks!

Cheers,
Mindfreak

So fast big plans eh? :D

Wow, I salute you dude, you have big plans and dream in your life. It's good actually. ^_^

I wish you all the best in your any jobs undertaking. ;)

Andrew

cool man. good to hear that some of the guys are making some initiative on the east malaysia side. i fully support that...

do u think u want to make it a chapter or a magic circle itself cause if u make it a circle itself, its kinda like excluding the peninsular side. wouldn't it be better to make it a chapter like the Kl chapter, malacca chapter and the rest?we can contribute better to each other and then can hold big meetings together with you guys over at the other side... whatca think??

mindfreak
make it a Sarawak magic circle lar....be more inclusive!!
I'll visit you guys sometime end of this year hopefully!

Hi all,

Thanks for the support and ideas.

We all should start small. I cannot start delegating jobs to everyone to start chapters here and there. But then, I have a suggestion and I need leaders from every part of Malaysia.

We start a magic circle in Malaysia and we'll officially link to the International Brotherhood of Magicians. The leaders of all parts will be in the committee and we'll hold annual conventions in different areas. Meanwhile, as leaders, your responsibilities would be to handle your area and its respective ring.

I assume most of us here are around 20-30 of age. This is a good and long term opportunity for us to open up magic into the society.

Membership into the Magic Ring: Area Division would require a small fee and approval of entry from the head committees. They will be subjected to small tests to prove of their seriousness in learning the art. Various levels of membership would exist.

Membership into the Magic Ring: National Division would require a higher fee and members should already be in their respective Area Divisions and obtain a letter of upgrading.

Something like this...
Im planning on this for this coming year and hopefully it can be done beginning next year. I am asking for support and ideas on this. I know I can do it...can you?

Definitely possible
but that would require administration work won't it?
like, if you are to set up an association, collecting fees...perhaps u hafta register your association with some lawyer or sth? dunno

or do you want to make it casual first, get enough members, then we can link to IBM?

just a thought

u gotta register with the registrar of societies
302..... brought this topic up once. If anyone has the time and effort to spare to register such a society/association deserves support. personally i dont have the time (working 6 day weeks, sometimes 7 days)

I think there is an govt act governing societies & associations. u could get the book from a good bookstore.

good luck. ;)

yeah, this is the website :-
http://www.jppmros.gov.my/index1.htm

excerpt from the site :-

As I mention earlier, it's all just a plan but I am starting small by having small groups first. Once we have reached around 20-30 members, maybe we'll consider going big. But meanwhile, everyone in every areas of Malaysia should start one too...

When we are ready to connect to IBM, representatives of your respective groups would come forward and it would make things easier. Rather than registering it first, then look for members.



Btw, Anyone from sarawak here other than eryanic, aerox and zhe ming?


Rainking: thanks for searching up on the legal descriptions!

glad to help :)

hm... think we are going too advance at the moment but its a great idea mindfreak... just wondering if anyone has the time to do it that's all... B)

yeah...
but then...
we can start planning the small things from now on right?
;)

yeap. no disagrement about that.

Aight then...
Still..
calling out to magicians in Miri, or in Sarawak!
If i'm not mistaken...
Cheesycake is from sarawak?

brunei if im not wrong

the IBM website shows that there could be one or more than one ring in Malaysia but there is no record in the database.

http://magic.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite....ww.magician.org

I asked IBM about joining and starting a Magic Ring...
Here is their reply...

The first link is dead though...
Anyone interested in the copy of their Code of Ethics, feel free to email me...

This is more suitable for those who mainly earns rich money performing magic....

It's just kind of not affordable with the fee being able to buy more decks and cool supplies. Well, maybe later in the future.

Good initiative Mindfreak. :)

Do you realise that what you are hoping to do is exactly what we here at the MMF is trying to do? B)
Right from the start we have had plans for localised "sections" of MMF all around Malaysia, just that we are waiting for enough membership to start it. I'm surprised Brendan didn't talk about it in here :)

The difference being we have no plans to collect any kind of membership fees whatsoever (i.e. this domain and forum is privated funded), and therefore, we can not link up with I.B.M.
Reason is I believe that a community should HELP and CONTRIBUTE to local magicians, rather than make money from local magicians. The money should and can come from those with a commercial interest.

MMF is not meant to be just an online magic forum. We want it to grow into a real community of magicians with regular meeting, real life objectives of affecting and influencing the magic scene in Malaysia. And MMF would not just be a group of magicians huddling together to show each other their latest effects, but an outfit of magicians that GOES OUT there and bring magic to the public.
For too long, the general public's opinion of magic and magicians is that of a clown in a top hat that does irrelevent stuff for kids. That's the image of magic that we want to change. That people recognise magic as a cool form of entertainment, something suitable for 5 year old to 55 year old.

But in all things, we have to wait for the ripening before the harvesting. For those of us who also drop by SMC and reads the rules and regulations and membership criteria, you might notice we have much stricter rules and have specific membership requirements. MMF will be a much bigger body than SMC, because of the sheer size of M'sia and the much bigger population. But in the meantime, we have to wait...and grow. -_-

I really really like your initiative Mindfreak. You took it upon yourself to try to move things along. Perhaps you could help MMF with what it is trying to do, instead of "breaking away" from MMF B)
I am VERY CERTAIN that Brendan and the Moderators could do with your leadership qualities and assistance. :)


Cheers

i agree with you aloy... i think i brought it up b4... <_<

i've always had this mental image of MMF becoming something official and real in the near future. and i totally agree on having regional/chapter sub-coms. the klang chapter (about 4-5 of us) have been meeting a few times already. we call ourselves the MMF Klang Chapter, i guess. its nothing official.

anyway, lots of luck in this. really lookin forward to it.

Me too, but I'd be satisfied to begin with getting a registered society with 30-50 active members and a registered premise (maybe the upstairs of a shoplot) where we can have meetings, and have stage performances. :)

"u may say i'm a dreamer, but i'm not the only one..."

then again, for this moment, lets have more activities..

I did not intend to break away as I did not even know that MMF has plans as such. Anyway, the reason I'm doing that is because of my location. Most of MMF's members are from West Malaysia and magic is really almost not praticed much here in East Malaysia. I do not know the outcome of this but I assume that if you are serious and have plans for MMF, you should work on it first and we'll help out in any way we can... Otherwise, I cannot just jump onto your bandwagon and start organising how MMF should grow.

why not? i think we are all here together to see how MMF can grow. Its the contribution from various members that makes it grow not the initiative of one.

I don't think the location is not really a problem cause we might be interstate but we keep it close. we have members from malacca and jb as well and as you can see we try to keep everyone together. we are taking intiative to meet up with the rest like our first trip to malacca next month.

like you said that East Malaysia hardly practice any magic, don't u think that gives you a better reason why we should stick together? sharing resources and even organising events would be easier.

Sharing resources and organizing events will NOT be easier if we constantly have to go through ppl in west malaysia. If you're talking about the forum, then yes, we'll still be around. There's no breaking off or isolating ourselves if that's what you're thinking.

East Malaysian group at the moment are quite scattered. What needs to be done is we need to group up. Then it'd be easier for the west msian group to communicate with us as a group rather as individuals individually. There's no hurry to organize MMF as a whole. If you already have structured plans for MMF, sure go ahead but remember not to simply fling around the pieces as you can't simply move us around Malaysia on command(unless u own a UFO or something and sure I'd like a free ride. :!!: ).

i just found out this topic. sorry if im late as i only participate in the card flourish section.. joe, i will meet when school start. c u :) hope things work well with u.. cheers.

precisely...

and its all based on this:

which everyone start to misunderstand. I never said anything about breaking off from mmf...


zhe ming: no problem man...tell me when you're back!

Uh... If everyone noticed, I posted a thread on this similar subject (that is, having regional meetings and whatnot).

As I previously proposed, I think it's best if we could have a regional chapter meetings as of now. When the meetings themselves are strong enough, may be MMF as a whole could move on to something more legitimately recognized body or something.

And indeed, as Aloy pointed out, MMF is gonna be a huge ass stuff.

It's really great that most of you are really planning to start a magician circle/society in Malaysia as well as in East Malaysia as suggested by Mindfreak.

My opinion are the magicians in West Malaysia (which has more magicians) really need to start a society, starting of this forum is really fantastic, good job Brendan!!! Starting a club, society that is registered and legal. Then from Miri/Sarawak, we can branch out from your society. You can always just start small, membership fees like RM20 per person? to cover for the registration fees to the goverment. East Malaysia group can start but we have quite a limited numbers here. The vital issue here is sticking as one group, one magic society in Malaysia

Later, we from Sarawak can branch out from you guys. As time goes by, we grow bigger then we link up the the IBM. No offense to mindfreak but linking up with IBM with such limited members is not a really good idea, but in future with more member we can linked up with them. We need to start small as you said mindfreak.

When we get registered as a legal society, then we can do lots of stuff. Start a business department where corporate company can hire magicians. Practice sessions, etc... Besides we can ask for grants or sponsorship from goverment and corporate companies. For example like martial arts, Taekwando, I read somewhere that goverment sponsor them like thousands of dollars each year for the running of the organization. Corporate companies sponsorship? We can print t-shirts, gifts like pen, mugs, to make ourself known to the society, with the company that sponsor us printed on the t-shirts etc...Corporate companies are more than willing to sponsor...they have some tax break...Besides we are like asking few thousands ringgits from each company which is a small sum for them....insurance companies, computer, food companies. I have did some of the stuff about sponsorship and etc...just sharing some of my experiences...

Just some of my ideas and suggestions, but I am really serious in setting up a physical legal registered magic society. Get around maybe 10 of us here that are really able to make some time and commitment, then we start one. Let the then handle all the logistics, the others put in ideas and suggestions. I would first volunteer myself... :D I know I still new in this forum but one thing I know for sure, to start a club or society, you need to exist physically.

besides, meeting up now would not be much of a problem, with airasia airfare, the slogan says it all, now everyone can fly. Of course these needs month of preparations. Airfare from Miri - KL, KL - MIri is around RM150. Which u need to book months in advance. Even students can afford them. Set aside around RM500 - RM800 and there you go, you got your whole trip covered. Of course rooms are on sharing and etc...

just one thing, if any of u guys come to miri, give me a call, free transportation and tour :D will throw in a dinner too....heheh... :lol:

my num and contact is posted on the contact thread...email me or call me before hand...

^_^

wow.. cool thanx for the offer Jeremy. ive never been to miri before. i see quite a number of u guys are from miri.. cool... great to have magician fren to hang out with.

Do u guys meet up regularly?

Be sure to jam with Jeff, a wonderful flourisher... :)

Brendan

so far i only met joe for a few minutes in campus.. i cant jam with u all regularly due to educational issues.. hehe.. n im not a wonderful flourisher.. :)

plannig to meet up soon I hope...hehe....look through and find who are from miri, then can meet up, as far i know, Jeff, mindfreak, me, who else?

of yeah Jeff, you mentioned you cannot meet up due to educational issue? are u in Miri or not anyway? I should be meeting with Joe next week...i mean if you don't have any transport or anything, you can always call me...no problemz...can you make it ?

lol.. im in miri now n i have my own transport. thanks anyway.. another 1 from miri is aerox. i believe joe knows him.. they r all vry good magicians i suppose. im sure u will have fun to jam with them. edu issues = assignments. this is my uni last semester n the workload is quite heavy to me. n now i have no spare time to do anything else beside sleep, shit, eating, sex,study, n practise on my flourish. i wil try to meet u guys if i can.. take care ;) i gtg to class now.. sigh :(

So far in Miri, I know these few:

- djsky
- aerox
- jeff

not in mmf
- ghazaly
- kelvin

not too bad for a small area..
I have numbers of a few other performers but they're usually available for stage magic during functions.

I'm not a "very" good magician. Maybe not yet anyway. I just do what I like to watch. ^_^

99% cards though due to time constraints. Decided to not add anymore of other things like coins.

i'll be in kuching supporting! :P

Nice, found out i knew djsky. His affiliation might come in handy for orders. :P

huh? :blink: