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Title: Review: Xtreme Beginners
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Andy - August 24, 2005 02:23 AM (GMT)
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I have to say that the editing and sound effects are superb, as expected of De'vo's products However, I believe that not many are that interested in my reviews on the soundtrick :!!: so i shall proceed onto the contents

Well, Like the name say, its really really mainly for the beginners.

There are 5 chapters to this DVD.

Chapter 1: Things to Know
Well, this chapter tells u what is XCM. It seems to have placed a lot on emphasis on the fact that XCM is NOT to be associated with magic and Gambling stuff. It is a pure art by itself......etc. In my opinion, its debatable, but i shall not go in further on this issue

Under this chapter, there are some finger exercises by Greg Irwin. Nothing really spectacular, some exercises are quite tough while some u would be able to master the first time u see it. Sorry, just received this DVD not long so i cant comment on how useful it makes my hands when doing the moves.

In addition, this chapter also goes on to tell you how to tear away the cellophane from the box - Yes nothing special here. Use the red string and tear off the top!! Slight attempt at humor here in their variaition of tearing the Cellophane (get the DVD to know what i mean). In addition, they teach u how to use your nail to cut the sticker!!! oh well, as i said, it is called "XTREME BEGINNERS". After which, they give u some ideas as to how to react when u drop cards (surprisingly, references to magic is made here) and how to pick up cards from different surfaces. I have to admit, some really cool ways other then just using your hands to pick them up. Great ideas can be found here in this chapter once u skim through the starting few bits which i feel anyone can achieve without watching a DVD (opening a box??)

Chapter 2: Basic Moves
Here is where the fun starts. Many of the moves are already found in the Encyclopedia of Playing cards flourishes and also performed in the companion DVD Vol 1. For those who did not buy the book, this is a good reference to a tiny bit of what you can get inside. However, the explanations in the DVD is indeed clearer, with behind the hands view and commentry on tips given by Jerry, which are not found in the book. Most people would not even bother to watch some of the moves, like charlier cut, pivot swing cuts, etc as it is really taught the way in which we are already doing it. (Yes, frustrating but refer to the title when u wonder why these are placed inside :rolleyes: )

The most important sections which i find in this chapter are the Utilities, Perching concepts and special moves by De'vo, Daryl's Hot shot and Jeff McBribe. Oh by the way, the card shooting which i used is called "vertical spin" which can be found in the special moves section. Some of the moves here are really difficut, like Jeff's Card Roll (Yes! Coin roll done with a Card!!).

However, please note that other than a few cuts, most are really taught for the sake of the beginners so its really not that difficult to learn. Some done on its own do not look impressive but tips are given to include them in "combos" so as to enhance them. This is whats important.

Chapter 3: Fanning Workshop
This was actually the main reason as to why i purchased this DVD. However, although detailed, it does not turn a person who can fan, into one that can fan as well as Jerry. I started not being able to do a pressure fan, i watched and ended still not being able to do one. So do NOT expect a miracle after watching this. PRACTISE PRACTISE PRACTISE :lol: Oh, just a side note, not much was spent in teaching the pressure fan. A lot was done on the thumb fan tho.

Chapter 4: Performing XCM Pro Tips
Mainly ideas, only for those who are seriously wanting to use XCM to earn money or perform on stage. Teaches things on what to do when u are idling on stage, where to place the deck, why do that, etc.

Chapter 5: Q
This is interesting. The scenes are done like an interview. You watch Q speak to you about the difficulties he faced, how Jerry, De'vo gave him tips to improve, etc. Quite an interesting movie to watch as they are spilt into 5 sections, week 1, week 2, etc. Interestingly to note, the tips which he mentioned, are usable to most people as we do commit the same mistakes. So this section does help as a sort of "Pro Tips" section too.



To conclude, I felt that most of the moves taught here are really very common stuff that most people are already doing (Save for a few special moves which, is really not worth the price of the DVD if u only want to learn these). Even the tips given althou useful, are not really in my opinion worth USD$40+. The moves taught althou sounds impressive at the website, arent really that spectacular when u actually watch it or do it (buy it and understand) Even the G-force flipback looks kinda weird to me and not at all cool. :!!:

However, if u are just beginning to get into XCM (flourishes or whatever u would like to call it), this is definitely something worth considering.

Anyway, hope i dint bored anyone with this kinda long review. Its just my thoughts on this DVD. Please feel free to differ or comment.

Thanks!! ^_^

Jeff - August 24, 2005 02:40 AM (GMT)
seems like chapter 1, 3 and 4 are the most interesting things to me in this dvd.. :) anyway.. i will get it soon. c how it goes..
andy.. record some moves from this dvd n send to brendan n complie la.. for the mmf flourish vid ;)

Andy - August 24, 2005 02:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Jeff @ Aug 24 2005, 02:40 AM)
seems like chapter 1, 3 and 4 are the most interesting things to me in this dvd.. :) anyway.. i will get it soon. c how it goes..
andy.. record some moves from this dvd n send to brendan n complie la.. for the mmf flourish vid ;)

Man i wish i could but i aint that good.

Once Brendan has his XB, he will be doing it way better than me so i think i better not disgrace myself ^_^

Jeff - August 24, 2005 04:41 AM (GMT)
hey.. c'mon. dont think that way. just try to show some cools moves from the dvd as me n brendan stil hvnt get the xbz.
i read some good reviews bout the dvds.. hmm.. :wacko:
http://www.ellusionist.com/order/Devo/XB-reviews.htm

Andy - August 24, 2005 04:47 AM (GMT)
Actually, if u noticed, the reviews are done by people from Superhandz. No offence to them but then i feel that it would definitely be more one sided as every single product out by De'vo seem to have received the greatest recommendations from them.

Anyway, i don deny that its a good DVD but i guess it just wasnt really worth what it was selling at thats all. or at least thats just me

Cheers! B)

Jeff - August 24, 2005 04:56 AM (GMT)
:lol: .. yeah.. i guess we cant find any bad reviews bout anything on E.. not like penguin u can bunch of bad reviews n comments n thats i wanna see.. hmm.. :blink:

Brendan Low - August 24, 2005 07:35 AM (GMT)
hehe... lol...

surely it was biased review.

ah... andy i was hoping to improve my P.fan after getting the XB... oh well... hehe :)

anyway, lots of good things are expensive... that's wat make it special i guess.... :)

Brendan

Andrew Loh - August 25, 2005 02:42 AM (GMT)
I think this DVD is a gem for those xcm beginners, it covers a lot of things. Think should consider to purchase one if have the vitamins. :P

Andrew

Ignatius - August 26, 2005 09:09 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Andy @ Aug 24 2005, 04:47 AM)
Actually, if u noticed, the reviews are done by people from Superhandz. No offence to them but then i feel that it would definitely be more one sided as every single product out by De'vo seem to have received the greatest recommendations from them.

Anyway, i don deny that its a good DVD but i guess it just wasnt really worth what it was selling at thats all. or at least thats just me

Cheers! B)

Yeap, I felt almost the same way too. My half "review" is in this topic: http://malaysiamagicfellowship.com/index.php?showtopic=515

I hope the part about McBride move wasn't an exposure.... coz ppl just see performance for it already can learn it easily. =/

And yes, I agree that overall it's good for beginners.

Jeremy Soon - August 26, 2005 04:45 PM (GMT)
thanks for the review man, at least getting a real honest opinion rather than reading in the website with all such good comments and stuff... makes me consider should I be purchasing it...

Ignatius - August 28, 2005 03:28 AM (GMT)
Well, up to you. For me, the best part is the Q section which is a great innovative idea. But I wished they'd show more of the jamming sessions in it instead of showing so much Q being interviewed.

Brendan Low - September 10, 2005 05:12 AM (GMT)
My fav parts were the Utilities, fanning workshop and Q section

I may not have learnt a lot a lot of moves like i did for the SYSTEM DVD but ive learnt a great deal of making the flow of cuts and styles look better. I think the utilities section is something i surely gain

Q section is surely entertainiing.... no doubt. He's a real cool dude too... :P

Well.. that's all i have to say... for now. those wanna know more can go see in the flourish thread, there's more reviews there abt the XB. lol

All in all... id give it 5/10 for price 7/10 for content ... hehe.. so overall 6.5/10.

Dont get me wrong.. its a great DVD.. but maybe more for Beginners. How i wish i was a beginner when i got this 2set-DVD.

Oh well.. great for collection :P
Brendan

Jeff Gan - September 10, 2005 06:43 AM (GMT)
QUOTE
Dont get me wrong.. its a great DVD.. but maybe more for Beginners. How i wish i was a beginner when i got this 2set-DVD.


thats why its titled "Xtreme Beginners". :P

maybe next year they'll put out "Xtreme Intermediates" :D




equALizt - September 11, 2005 12:39 PM (GMT)
this vid sounds great, but is it suitable for me that doesnt know anything yet ?

and how do u guys order this dvd ? i mean like do u order it from the website and then they send it to you even though its in the state and were here ?

and do u guys usually buy in a bunch, so that u can save heaps of money on it ?


Neo - September 26, 2005 02:47 PM (GMT)
man..any 1 know where to get stuff like that other than ordering from other country .. some can be found but not all.... i mean cool dvds is easy to find online than finding it in kl

Ignatius - September 27, 2005 10:54 AM (GMT)
First 100 XB sold out at Superhandz. Now, it's only exclusive to Ellusionist. It is limited by the way, only 1000 copies and if I heard correctly, they will stop selling it by November. Well, that is unless Ellusionist decides to change their mind to earn more $$. The same goes with the agreement of De'vo as well. :rolleyes:




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