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Title: Creative Or Experience Matters?


Andrew Loh - September 1, 2005 02:55 PM (GMT)
Hi folks,

Would like to hear your views guys. I have been impressed magicians such as Larry Jennings, Dave Campbell, etc, they started magic quite late in their life, what I am impressed most is they are very, very 'creative' in creating their effects. ;)

Would like to know you guys, do you think that "experience" matters or "Creative" matters???

In the magiccafe forum, there are many, many young authors nowadays, they just have a few years experience in magic, but yet their effects are so elegant, excellent and etc. B)

What you guys think??? Which ones you guys vote???

Creative or Experience??? ^_^

Andrew

Samuel Chong - September 2, 2005 12:37 AM (GMT)
>> Would like to know you guys, do you think that "experience" matters or "Creative" matters???
>> Which ones you guys vote??? Creative or Experience???
I'll vote for both because both also matters. But, if you ask me which one matters first then I believe creative comes first and if you have experience as well, it would even enhance your creativity.

Talking about experience, what do you mean experience???
Number of years in performing magic or numbers of performance in a year??
do you consider a magician experience because he/she has learn magic for 10 years (but he/she performs 4 shows in a year only)??
Or do you consider a magician experience because he/she performs 50 over shows a year for 4 years??
Experience in performing for real world audience or just friends and family's members??

A few questions for you guys to think.

ScMonte

Andrew Loh - September 2, 2005 01:50 AM (GMT)
The Experience I am referring to is the years a person involved in magic practising his magic, knowledge in moves and sleights! ^_^

Some magicians I noticed they just involved in magic for 1 year, but he already can created so many wonderful card magic. For us, we will think that this guy maybe in magic for 10 years but reality this guy just involved magic in 1 year but able to create wonderful stuffs. ^_^

It's difficult to say sometimes, even though my humble opinion, he does not have lots of experience, but he is creative.

Well, a lot of thinking here, and I hope to hear some of you guys views about this.

Have a pleasant day! B)

Andrew

Ning - September 2, 2005 05:07 AM (GMT)
Hey Andrew :) Nice thread going... It's a good question to ask really because I think most of us are guilty of doing one of the rules of the 10 magic commandments religiously (pactise, practise, practise) but neglecting the other (perform, perform, perform) :P

The perfect balance would be a marriage of both- creativity an experience comes from both. Oh, and money helps alot too :P Just look at some performers like Copperfield *grin* I heard he's coming to SG next year btw...

Ning :lol:

Adlan - October 7, 2005 02:43 PM (GMT)
if he's coming to singapore, i'm gonna get my passport renewed. :!!:

Kenneth Wong - October 7, 2005 08:14 PM (GMT)
andrew,
experience n creative both r needed . first of all u must experience . wat i mean experience here is , not only the experience of the shows u have done , also the sleight that u know, as well as the concept n the theory behind the trick.
then only creative comes in , a lot of ppl might have invented a lot of tricks , but it looks very familiar , cos they dont really invent it , they just change it or edit it so the trick looks diffirent from the original.
if u really go in to those tricks, u will notice that most of the tricks has been there for sometimes already, just becos ppl take it n change the presentation so that it looks new. i am very pround of those ppl that really take their time n upgrade those tricks but i will appreciate those that come out with their own NEW concepts n ideas . actually to create a routine or sleight is not so easy , cos u need to consider the theory behind the trick , for example , card trick... maybe ur routine consist of elmsley count n biddle grip , but b4 that , u have think y have to use elmsley count ? is it other way to make it ? is there any other handling ? do the elmsley make sense if i put it there ? does it looks normal ? what is the REASON behind tat support the elmsley count ? of cos all these come from ur experience :)
creative ; think of some total new ideas , which is no where near other ppl concept :) althought it is very difficult , cos most of the effects already created by previous genius as u know........ the ideas n concept usually dont come from the dvds n books , it comes from ur everyday life! think about it , i hope this help :)
by the way good job that u have come out ur new book with ur own ideas .
even though i have not read it , but i think its a good start for u . keep up the good work n good luck n maybe the force be with u .




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