Title: Newbie Need Help
romagic - September 10, 2005 09:22 AM (GMT)
hi, i'm totalling new in magic. i like to try some easy tricks. do you think this is ok for beginner?
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Peter - September 13, 2005 10:54 AM (GMT)
hey there. i am not too sure about the magic cap but the other 2 is quite advance cause it uses IT. need a lot a lot of practice when it comes to IT...
Andrew Loh - September 13, 2005 12:45 PM (GMT)
Hi romagic,
Glad to hear from you. ^_^
Yes, I would like to congratulate you of being a new magician which would like to learn some magic. ;)
May I suggest you if you would like to perform some easy magic, why not you visit your local bookstore and I am sure that our local bookstore would carry some magic books. Though the books will teach you some easy magic.
If you have some foundation in magic, then I would suggest you to get some classic books such as Expert Card Technique, Royal road to Card magic, Hofzinser card conjuring, Mark Wilson book series, JB BOBO coin magic, etc.
Cheers,
Andrew
Jeff Gan - September 13, 2005 04:14 PM (GMT)
dont waste money buying single effect tricks (unless u got money to burn)
buy books or beginner DVDs.
or find a "sifu"
JamesTong - September 13, 2005 09:33 PM (GMT)
Start off with the basics first. Otherwise you will find the advance stuffs too tough for you. Good magic takes a lot of practices.
Follow Andrew and Rainking's advice - get books and DVDs and you'll learn much more.
Magically Yours ... James Tong
Brendan Low - September 14, 2005 12:21 AM (GMT)
Yups, books and DVDs are best. Single effects.... costly and not as worth it. Only buy single effects after u've got the foundation but still desperate to learn the single effect that is not taught in books or DVDs.
DVDs... i recommend Easy to master Card Miricle series by Michael Ammar. If u looking for street magic style.. OZ pearlman's Born to Perform Card magic is v good.
Cheers!
Brendan
Eric Liew - September 14, 2005 02:09 AM (GMT)
Andrew and dam0n, back me up on this....
Get books! :P
if you count $ per effect, you'll certainly learn more effects in a book than in a DVD.
I guess it not only applies to magic, but to those who read books, i'm sure u'll agree that reading a book is better than watching a movie....
Everyone who have read the Lord of the Rings book told me that it's better than the movie....
I'm sure you can find a "books vs dvd" thread in every forum out there. Basically in a book, the writer's thoughts are written in greater detail, the explanations are in greater depth...etc
But the downside of it as everyone knows, is that you cannot see how the move/sleight is done.
dam0n - September 14, 2005 11:19 AM (GMT)
Lol..I used to be into DVDs....
I think DVD's are a good way to learn specific sleights where text alone do not suffice.
The thing with books is they're much more collectible/valuable and convenient.
I guess most of the best in magic today learned off books anyway. Andrew's advice will get you off and starting.
lol..I'd prefer watching LOTR on movie tho no doubt...
Andrew Loh - September 14, 2005 12:10 PM (GMT)
DaMon,
Yes, you are right! It's more easier to learn card sleight from DVD than reading books. ^_^
But, books are a great resource of credits and history behind the effects. ;)
Andrew
Peter - September 16, 2005 04:16 AM (GMT)
totally agree with u andrew...
Brendan Low - September 16, 2005 07:57 AM (GMT)
I dont mind learning from books if i have all the time in the world. lol... its takes time and u gotta know what is explanation is talking abt. For eg. if u dont know wat ETFUS is.. then how are u gonna do the slieght? Some books dont go explaining the sleight. its like u have to learn it through other sources other books etc.
As for DVD.. every single sleight is being taught there. and u can see which angle works and which does not.
As for beginners.. i would recommend u to get some dvds first... learn it. When and once u become more advance and more familiar with the names of the sleights... then get books.
Books no doubt has some of the best effects and its useful if u know what u are expected to do. :P
Guys like Andrew knows a lot abt magic terms and sleights. I think someone said he is the walking encyclopedia.. lol... :) Great magician too... :)
Regards,
Brendan
Andrew Loh - September 17, 2005 01:27 AM (GMT)
Yes, Brendan, thanks for your compliments! No, I don't consider myself as a dictionary yet as I am still have a lot of things to learn in magic. :wub:
You have your solid points too. ^_^
Yes, romagic, if you would like to learn some card magic especially in card sleights, then I would suggest you follow Brendan's advice. Or get the "Encyclopedia of card sleights by Daryl". I think these 8 volumes DVDs can really help you in your card magic arsenal.
Honestly, it's not easy to learn card sleights or effects from a book. You will feel really frustrated if you don't understand the single move or the effects what the book is trying to deliver the steps to you.
For books and I am referring those books selling in US or UK and written by experience authors, you MUST or compulsory have a solid foundation in card moves, sleights as well as the effects. If the author says Ambitious card, cannibal cards, Triumph, George Sand's Principle, etc, you have to know what's the author is trying to say. Otherwise, the money you invest in those books would be meaningless. The authors assume you that you must have a foundation in card moves. That's why those books, the authors would not explain vivid details above the specific card moves.
One thing for all the years I read magic books, I found a lot of pleasure in reading the effects as well as the history behind all the magic as well as the sleights. It's really enjoy and fun. On top of that, you also can discover the author's life behind his magic.
If you are not a guy that likes to sit down all the day just spend your time in reading magic books for 5 to 6 hours and do some research on the 'credits', then books are DEFINITELY not for you. :P - Reading magic books required a lot of patience and dedication. It's not an easy tasks, really! ^_^
I think guys like Eryanic and daMon, do you agree????!? :P
Ok romagic, I wish you all the best in your magical journey. ;)
Best,
Andrew
dam0n - September 17, 2005 02:50 AM (GMT)
when you take the time and effort to read a book..it helps u appreciate a trick more..rather then letting it fly by you...
Andrew Loh - September 18, 2005 12:22 PM (GMT)
That's the rewarding side, I'm agree. ^_^