Title: Our Own TV Show
Description: Merged with "Magic on Malaysian TV"
Adlan - May 31, 2005 07:32 AM (GMT)
i'm thinking of shooting a magic show for tv. i need some feedback on this. i can get the equipment and i have an experienced crew to shoot this thing.
if i could get around 5-10 magicians for a 1-2 hours TV program, that would be just nice.
when i get a group of magicians (street, parlor, closeup, whatever), we will get together to discuss funding and sponsors, what effects to include, etc.
after that i'm gonna try to push the program to a TV station and see if we could turn this into a weekly series like Mondo. i have a few contacts in the industry, so wish me luck on that. all i need now is some feedback.
if anyone's interested, please email me at chemical_animal@yahoo.com or SMS this number : 012 226 1093. SMS only please. i have a problem with my phone. hehe. SMS me your number and name and i'll contact u as soon as i can.
ChongWei - May 31, 2005 07:47 AM (GMT)
my full support to you. Too bad am not skillfull to take parts.. hehe..maybe as spectator ?
Brendan Low - May 31, 2005 08:25 AM (GMT)
wow... sounds so cool.... hehe i also dunno if im up for it. my magic.. aiyo yo.. ok ok.. only... i do the classic card tricks... street magic. maybe for flourish can la.. eheh just do a bit of flourish ehhe... but... hey.. few questions
not everyone is from kl, some from melaka, some ipoh, some east msia, so how?
unless u can get a group of KL magicians, then may good. if the person is in melaka then how? he not going to go to kl week is he? i like ya idea and guts a lot! man... it'll be cool to have a mondo magic in msia.
MagicB
ps. keep the ideas coming guys! U have my full support :)
Paul Long - May 31, 2005 08:41 AM (GMT)
Ambitious! :o Go for it if you have the skills and guts! <_< .But as for me, I'll have to be a spectator and cheer you all on :lol: ... TV is way out of my league :(
Jeff Gan - May 31, 2005 11:31 AM (GMT)
my magic not powderful enuf for tee vee
magic B and andrew should be good enuff. just need to work on shyness and presentation.
jackliw - May 31, 2005 11:39 AM (GMT)
i am in :):)
i will try to do whatever i can. i am not powerful also. :)
Darren - June 1, 2005 03:56 AM (GMT)
You hav my full support for the idea too! actually i hav abit of experience of making my own video (wit david they all)..the final product is not very satisfactory (good for collecting for own memory but not up to the TV level)..we did send it to TV station but didn't get much of their attention. and HENCE, i think i learnt some lessons from this experience:
1. Be serious, be patient. (We rush out the whole thing in ONE night, obviously tat's severly inadequate. We did the shooting around Sunway pyramid area till late night and we're all exhausted) I think the better way is dun rush it..collect good scene n good reactions..perform more times n in more places..quality is the most important.
2. The editing crew. Though my vid was shot n edited by experienced crew, the fatal point is, they are NOT magician. i think it's good to let (or at least helped by) magician to care for the angles n shooting part, and also the editing. That's bcoz only WE know wat's the desired effect tat we wanna deliver.
3. Making it a reality is not impossible. We should do it before anyone else appear on TV (like criss after blaine), the originality is lost. AFter all there is no 'malaysian' magic gang yet hehe. so come on guys, make it happen.
Jeff Gan - June 1, 2005 04:11 AM (GMT)
i can help u be the "spectator' and do the run away screaming :!!: kinda reaction.
LOL :D
Kam - June 1, 2005 09:07 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Rainking @ Jun 1 2005, 04:11 AM) |
i can help u be the "spectator' and do the run away screaming :!!: kinda reaction.
LOL :D |
I second that!
Rainking, we should set up our own "Reactioners" team B)
ChongWei - June 1, 2005 09:11 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (doktokaro @ Jun 1 2005, 09:07 AM) |
| QUOTE (Rainking @ Jun 1 2005, 04:11 AM) | i can help u be the "spectator' and do the run away screaming :!!: kinda reaction.
LOL :D |
I second that!
Rainking, we should set up our own "Reactioners" team B)
|
count me in.. hmm.will the whole MMF member in that team? then who'se gonna perform!?
Jeff Gan - June 1, 2005 11:17 AM (GMT)
i gotta agree wif darren, the magician gotta have some sorta control of camera angles, editing etc. If not the magician himself, then a magician should be advisor to the director /cameraman.
then again, look at blaine, he always knows where the camera is and adjust his own and spectators position beforehe start the trick. if the camera fail to capture the moment the spectator's face turn :!!: , wasted man!!!
Adlan - June 2, 2005 03:59 AM (GMT)
i a glad for all your support.
u guys are right, only a magician would know how to take the right angles, how to edit stuff...etc.
just email me if u wanna join...
for those outside KL, i'm sorry but u gotta have ur own transport. :( sorreee...
Brendan Low - June 2, 2005 04:03 AM (GMT)
i agree with the camera man being a magician too :). angle is v sensitve... i wana do some colour changes :)
hey....is this gonna be a one time show thing or a series? if u wanna do it like mondo.... amn we really need lots of time and creativity man. if one time show then we can put in the best effects. and those outside kl can come for oneday shooting event... lol.... :P
MagicB
Adlan - June 2, 2005 04:13 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (MagicB @ Jun 2 2005, 12:03 PM) |
i agree with the camera man being a magician too :). angle is v sensitve... i wana do some colour changes :)
hey....is this gonna be a one time show thing or a series? if u wanna do it like mondo.... amn we really need lots of time and creativity man. if one time show then we can put in the best effects. and those outside kl can come for oneday shooting event... lol.... :P
MagicB |
well the way the industry works, we have to come up with a pilot or a special or something like that, then the tv folks will decide whether to let us make more shows.
so...it's prolly better to come up with a pilot which is about 40 minutes...it should take about a week of shooting and another week or two of editing.
KenophLai - June 2, 2005 05:12 AM (GMT)
i had this idea before~~! but i'm taking my exam this year so too bad i cant join...
but when r u guys going to start shooting?
Jeff Gan - June 2, 2005 05:19 AM (GMT)
my suggestion,
get more footage.
maybe up to 2-3 hours cos you'll find a lot of footage can't be used. (bad lighting, focus, bad magic hehehe, spectator behave like blaine (stoned facial expression)
then after editing, u'll have your 40 mnutes.
this is live shoots ( the spectator's expressions) so do the same tricks on many dirrerent people, choose the best reaction and use that.
unless u intend to do close up to camera ( ala Grandpas' Aces, i love that performance), then its just u and the cameraman. shoot until u get it right. no need for spectators.
ChongWei - June 2, 2005 06:04 AM (GMT)
IMO, maybe we should focus on the specatator's response, like a 3rd spectator view.. like blaine, they re-shoot the close up AFTER the trick is done..
Brendan Low - June 2, 2005 06:11 AM (GMT)
yup that's rite. do it like blaine's specials... its important to capture the spec/audience reactions and expressions. that will make it sell :) lol..
and yeah i agree with Rainking, we should get more footage coz editing and all will take away some not so good scenes.
we can like make this as like a video from the "Underground"... i mean i dont think any of us is like well known magicians rite? hehe... well, im not... only my frens know i magician, the rest no clue :P. we are all still very underground in that sense.
MagicB
Adlan - June 2, 2005 07:46 AM (GMT)
actually, all the suggestions above are already on my list of things to do.
don't worry bout the production guys, all i want is 5-10 guys. then we can start talking.
;)
Eric Liew - June 2, 2005 11:23 AM (GMT)
I can be your stooge....
Since i'm in Australia, you can do a trick which involves something overseas....
like, you make a card dissapear in Malaysia...reappear all the way in Australia...
I'll start practising my acting of my surprised face if you're cool with the idea...
haha
30210162 - June 2, 2005 12:31 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (MagicB @ May 31 2005, 08:25 AM) |
| wow... sounds so cool.... hehe i also dunno if im up for it. my magic.. aiyo yo.. ok ok.. only... i do the classic card tricks... street magic. maybe for flourish can la.. eheh just do a bit of flourish ehhe... |
LOL, don't overdo it pal! You might not be able to handle the screaming female fans all trying to rape you! :lol:
"Remember, flourishes are sexy!" - Jay Sankey
Eric Liew - June 2, 2005 04:59 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (30210162 @ Jun 2 2005, 12:31 PM) |
LOL, don't overdo it pal! You might not be able to handle the screaming female fans all trying to rape you! :lol:
"Remember, flourishes are sexy!" - Jay Sankey |
no wonder some people get wood from performing flourishes..:D
Brendan Low - June 3, 2005 12:19 AM (GMT)
hehe... will there be screaming females in msia? lol... we'll just have to wait and see :)
baalan, hope u can gather a few people in kl to start discussing abt it first and then come out with a game plan and then proposal.
i like the idea of street magic kinda filming (blaine style), 30120162 (u can perform freaky magic -criss angel stuff, with the gothic look... u into that rite? lol), then we can have some parts in the filming for card manipulation skills and some flourish, colour changes and some close up work. We have magicians with different personalities..
just some street magic stuff that we can do:
ACR, 2CM, here and there, watch steal (can anyone do that?hehe dangerous also might get beaten up later), heal and sealed soda (anyone tried it and successful?) and someone can also do levitation be it BL or KR.
hmm wat you guys think? for this to work, start working on meeting up regularly (those in kl and interested) and then go from there.
MagicB
Darren - June 3, 2005 01:49 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE |
| ACR, 2CM, here and there, watch steal (can anyone do that?hehe dangerous also might get beaten up later), heal and sealed soda (anyone tried it and successful?) and someone can also do levitation be it BL or KR |
Won't that be too similar to blaine's special? Ha but i do agree those are all good street tricks..anyway we should come up with more fresh tricks..need to brainstorm first..
but after all i think we should perform 'some' blaine's tricks la (but definately not those already been revealed n well known by laymen one)..not to show we r imitating, but to let ppl know we can do wat he does..=)
ChongWei - June 3, 2005 03:01 AM (GMT)
maybe we can create variation or his trick? since everyone likes him, maybe we can bring the trick one step further ? i'm very impress with the trick done in Mondo Magic, the one which the prediction on the window..
Brendan Low - June 3, 2005 06:07 AM (GMT)
yes, u r right darren, we need something fresh, something like wat mondo magic does, even though i have not seen it lol. but i think even if we do blaine's stuff, people will still watch it and be amazed. i dunno how many laymen heard or seen all of blaine's magic unless they are his fans. i just dont think everyone knows the effect of 2CM. maybe 50:50... not sure... but yeah if we can think of something fresh.... it will be great!
Kam - June 3, 2005 06:30 AM (GMT)
Indeed, we all should meet up first and talk about it.
If I ever get a part (which I won't HA HA), I'll stick to the good ole Breakthrough Card System ;) or may be some Tudor's Heckler stuff heheheheh. In fact, I don't think I'd be here in July, so why don't you guys do the stuff I just mentioned? I'm sure a card to front zipper will make funny reaction ;)
Adlan - June 7, 2005 06:14 AM (GMT)
so any takers yet? we should have a meeting/gathering soon, just to brainstorm for ideas and for me to take down some notes.
pls email or PM me. i'll list down ur names on the 1st post.
tiramisu - June 13, 2005 04:43 PM (GMT)
hi there ...i am new here ...about the tv show...can i kind of like join u guys cause i am really love magic......maybe u guys can make me play a smalll part...haahha thanks.......beside life is magical ...
Ignatius - June 20, 2005 08:42 AM (GMT)
All David Blaine street style ar? No sit or stand at table performance style eh izzit?
zhuanan - June 20, 2005 03:23 PM (GMT)
[hi there ...i am new here ...about the tv show...can i kind of like join u guys cause i am really love magic......maybe u guys can make me play a smalll part...haahha thanks.......beside life is magical ... ]
Sure tiramisu....the more the merrier ^_^
David Lai - June 20, 2005 04:38 PM (GMT)
Baalan,I`ll call you up for a meeting.I`m sure this will work fine.Get ready,this is going to be big.
Brendan Low - June 21, 2005 12:23 AM (GMT)
hey Baalan, maybe can do some shooting at Nouvo itself? wat ya think? its natural club setting and all. Wont it be great? those who has digicam or even video cam, bring them along.
guys, any ideas when our first MMF production will start commencing? maybe we can all sit down and discuss this on fri, after the performance. we got a room to JAM whole nite long. haha
Brendan
Andrew Loh - June 21, 2005 03:40 AM (GMT)
:lol: - That would be great! :P
Andrew
Adlan - June 21, 2005 04:28 AM (GMT)
that's an awesome idea. the only problem is finding a camera. if anyone's got a mini dvcam please bring one. i'll bring a friend along to help us shoot. he's on my crew, and he's sorta learning magic from me too! i'll try to get a camera, but if anyone get get exra cameras, do bring em. we could include the nuovo gig in the program!
Brendan Low - July 2, 2005 07:10 AM (GMT)
hehe baalan...unfortunately all of us were too busy performing and no clips were taken sigh...
anyway, so any news abt the shooting? im excited abt that project man. let me know wat u guys think and thought of. i wanna contribute in anyway i can.
CHeers!
Brendan
Andrew Loh - July 2, 2005 07:12 AM (GMT)
Yeah, it's good at least we can watch back and enjoy our performance if someone use handy cam to shoot our scene. :P
Andrew
Kam - July 2, 2005 07:28 AM (GMT)
We've got to start somewhere. We should start filming our activities and make a collage out of it for a start.
Andrew Loh - July 2, 2005 07:32 AM (GMT)
Yeah, Kamil you are right! Maybe members here can start planning now and how about when we meet on December 2005, this project can start already, right??? ^_^
Andrew
zhuanan - July 2, 2005 09:09 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Andrew Loh @ Jul 2 2005, 03:32 PM) |
Yeah, Kamil you are right! Maybe members here can start planning now and how about when we meet on December 2005, this project can start already, right??? ^_^
Andrew |
Agreed! ^_^