I like coin tricks..do anyone can recommend coin sleeving technique..i think when I sleeve the coin the vanish more unbelieveable...coz i can produce it back easily

>>i think when I sleeve the coin the vanish more unbelieveable...
You are true but don't get addicted to it. I mean you don't sleeve your coin just for the sake of sleeving.

>>coz i can produce it back easily
I disagree, I don't think it's easy and it don't look natural also. I always use misdirection or blocking to retrive my sleeved object back.

If you are interested check out the DVD/VHS below:
5) Carl Cloutier’s World Magic (Instructional)
37) Banachek’s PSI Series Vol 4 (teach you how to retrive it back only)
44) Bob Fitch’s Topit Workshop Vol 1 - 3 (Instructional)
53) Carl Cloutier’s Expert Sleeving Made Easy (Instructional)
155) Ellis And Webster’s Ellis In Wonderland/24 Years Living Living Next Door To Ellis (either one of it, can't remember)
195) IBM Course Of Magic Vol 27 Rocco (Instructional)
223) Jim Pace's Visu Antics (Instructional)
253) Manuel Muerte's Done By Misdirection (Instructional)
352) Thom Peterson's The Amazing Guy (Instructional)

Coin sleeving has its own unique name, if I remember correctly, it's called the Pumpkin Seed Vanish.

A lovely name. :D

Andrew

get Bobo's book, he's got tons of sleeving methods in there. most of them are still practical to use today. best of luck.

yeah..thanks..baalan...i got bobo coin magic now...start learn sleeving well.. :D

>> Coin sleeving has its own unique name
>> if I remember correctly
>> it's called the Pumpkin Seed Vanish.
It's one of a sleeving technique which uses both hands to sleeve the object. For example: D.Vernon Topping The Deck, it's one of a palming technique which uses both hands.

You can learn this Pumpkin Seed Vanish in 1 of the IMS video series teached by Harry Loraine or 1 of Bob Fitch’s Topit Workshop DVD series.

>> get Bobo's book, he's got tons of sleeving methods in there.
>> most of them are still practical to use today.
If you want your sleeving looks convincing, smooth and natural, you need to learn it from Carl Cloutier, Rocco, Jim Pace, Manuel Muerte. These fellows manage to eleminate the ugly looking wrist breaking move or at least give a motivation for doing so.

Sleeving is 1 of the move that really hard to learn it from book or even DVD. Try to get someone to teach you. If you are serious in learning sleeving, try to modify your coat/jacket's sleeves for easier sleeving.

ScMonte
(Arggg....I burned my thumb while I'm performing on stage just now :wacko: )

yes i recommend bobo's book.... i has alot of coin techniques such as switches, vanishes and etc etc etc.

I am not such a big fan of sleeving but there are very practical techniques applicable to useful SLEEVING sleights out there. For example, the production pf a jumbo coin or a vanish of a bigger objects. Coin sleeving works but come to think bout it, a coin is not a exactly a very large object to hide. I just don't find enough reason to load it up my sleeve wether for a vanish or a production.
After all, we have the body size advantage over the coin and misdirection techniques to get a step ahead of the audience. Another food for thought is Malaysian weather. Is is common to see a person wearing a long sleeves around? Especially if you're a magician, wouldn't audiences have another reason to doubt.

Well, i am not saying that it's unworkable. Just that i havent found sleeving somehow applicable to my routines and definately not my persona.

>> After all, we have the body size advantage over the coin
>> and misdirection techniques to get a step ahead of the audience.
Can you give some examples..?

>> Is is common to see a person wearing a long sleeves around?
Of course, as you said, it won't be a norm seeing peopel waering coat as casual. However, if you are a working magician & especially you often perform in hotels/corperate shows then it will be a normal thing to see people wearing coat. You are also expected to be dress with coat if you are paid.

>> Especially if you're a magician,
>> wouldn't audiences have another reason to doubt.
They sure will but you can kill that perception using some subtleties. A lot of magicians (like Greg Wilson, Tim Webster, Roger Klause... ) use that subtleties but they use it in other area.

I was smoked when I remembered Rocco fooled many ppl with his s******* technique!

I think it would be better not to underestimate the power of s******* and there are numerous applications to it and it is highly visual magic as well.

Andrew

I agree with Canbeef, as for Malaysia tropical weather hardly we could find a chance to wearing a coat. Though, at the same time we can’t underestimate the usefulness of sleeving too. Even laymen aware of sleeving but if you perform it correctly, it still can’t fail to amaze your audiences too.

Would just like to know any of our member here really uses sleeving (sleeve the object in or retrive it out) as part of their routine to archive the effect..?

yeah wearing coat in m'sia is quite odd..
unless u have ur own show and its indoor...
the technic is not limited to coat only..
there r several ways to perform it..
...no exposure ..

I am wondering, I don't think it looks weird if say we are performing magic in a hotel by wearing a tuxedo which we giving the impression of professionalism whether on the stage or perform from table-to-table.

Andrew

I do a lot of sleeving, pocketing, cuffing, tieing, topiting, lapping, etc in my pro-work.

My tip to you guys is - you just don't know when you would use them and in my case I use a lot of them most of the time. Learn them well and they wil serve you well.

I dont really like coin sleeving.Coz you need long sleeve.It always look more impossible if you're wearing short sleeve.Doing french drop,etc is still much better than coin sleeving

If you are working magician and you are required to wear coat in certain occation, why not utilize your sleeve... ;)

Like what Roberto Giobbi's says "infrastructure management". Utilizing is also a type of management.

James tong doesnt wear long sleeve when performing on stage.But he does wear awesome and nice looking short sleeve shirt though.

Your infrastructure (dressing) depends on the occasion setting, function requirement, target audience, design of your dressing & of course how you wanna present yourself.

Do you know that sleeving can create a lot of illusion that could even fool magicians (not only amateur but the pros as well)? It depends on your capability on how you play your audience mind and ...... (sorry can't expose here :ph43r: )

It's not necessary for everyone to learn sleeving but if you know it, your in advantage. Who knows one day you might need to use it. Just like what James said: "I do a lot of sleeving, pocketing, cuffing, tieing, topiting, lapping, etc in my pro-work. My tip to you guys is - you just don't know when you would use them and in my case I use a lot of them most of the time. Learn them well and they will serve you well." ;)

Nice,thx a lot for the tips.I like doing lapping though.Especially when in a restuarant.very cool looking illusion.I would usually vanish the coin and then make it reproduce inside an empty chocolate box(If I'm at a wedding,they always serve lil chocolates haha) if not then I would reproduce it under a bowl,etc.Thats just a lil idea of mine.

purchase Silver Dream by Justin Miller. it's a 3 coin sleeving routine. and it's great. imagine 3 coins vanish.

i've tried it with a long-sleeve t-shirt (not a coat) and it works well for me.

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I don't like to use coin sleeving because I always wear a short sleeve shirt but sometimes if I try it,I get a good reaction.However it is,I think it need a lot of practice to do it well.JB Bobo Modern Coin Magic show many ways to do the coin sleeving.

I received my Catapult DVD yesterday. It's a nice DVD on sleeving with tight sleeve. A few innovative and daring ideas.

From a question on coin sleeving technique's to debate on how other coin technique's are better.

It would be a never ending debate for each person would have their own desire on which technique and other circumtances to take into account.

It is a usefull 'tool' to master, no harm in learning something extra to add into your skill bowl.

You are right.

Snap vanish. It's impromptu... and Raven-ish.

short or long sleeves????its up to u guys!!!!!!!!! but u must be perfectin the magic that u want to do.........no rules to be the good magician!!!!!heheheh, just carefull with your presentation dude!!! :ph43r: